STD Tuning Engine Turbo Information Thread (Needs your contributions!)

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GT2256V

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04-14-2011, 06:59 PM #1
Admin edit: old thread is here http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...hp?tid=235 beware some of the specs are incorrect

Ok, I decided to totally redo the turbo information thread, with a collaborative approach.

We're going to list actual turbos members have used, with the model and engine, short blurbs on the characteristics it had (when does it spool up, when does it choke, does it surge, etc), any adaptation notes (flanges, clocking, etc), what it originally came off of, compressor/turbine maps, etc.

So anyone who's got an unusual turbo, come make a post in this thread, and give a quick summary on what the deal is with it, and possibly a link to a more in-depth thread of yours.

I will compile a list of these turbos, with a list of the members who posted about each one underneath (linking to that particular post).

We also need stock turbo information too, basic info like "Here's a KKK" and "Here's a Garrett". Wastegate adjustment procedures would be nice too.

I think I'll start with the electronic GT2256V I attempted to cram onto my om617. Need to snap more pics of it.



Exhaust Flanges
Thanks to Zeitgeist for the photo
   
T3 Flange
Used on most Mercedes 3L/3.5L engines til 1995.
T25 Flange
Used on 2.5L engines til 1995.
Late 90s MB Flange
I'm not sure what the real name for this is. At some point in the late 90s MB switched to this for the OM606 turbo and the Sprinter OM602. It is triangular, with a round opening in the middle.
2000-Present MB Flange
This is the flange MB uses on most of it's common-rail engines.
   



Stock Turbos
MB alternated between KKK and Garrett frequently. The KKK turbos spool up slightly faster.
KKK K26
Stock on 3.0L OM617, T3 flange. Not sure what years, generally later (82-85).
Garrett T3 .45 Trim (TAO301/TAO310/TAO314)
Stock on 3.0L OM617. '78-85 300SD, '82-85 300D, '81-85 300TD.
KKK K24
Stock on 3.0L OM603, T3 flange. '86-87 300SDL, '87 300D/TD.
Thanks to babymog for the photo
[Image: attachment.php?aid=4422]
Garrett T3 .50 Trim (TBO359/TBO360)
Stock on the 3.0L OM603, '86-87 300SDL, '87 300D/TD.
Compressor Inducer 42.5mm
Compressor Exducer 60.1mm
Turbine Exducer 48.62
Turbine Inducer 58.98
Thanks to babymog for the photo
[Image: attachment.php?aid=4423]
Garrett T3 .55 Trim (TB0369/TB03)
Stock on the 3.5L OM603, '90-91 350SDL, '92-95 300SD/S350. Has a more efficient compressor map for 603s.
CH A/R .52, EH A/R .48, Compressor 45mm/60 mm, Turbine 48mm
Thanks to babymog for the photo
[Image: attachment.php?aid=4427]
Garrett T25 (TB2510/TB2550)
Stock on 2.5L OM602, '87 190D Turbo, '90-'93 300D.
KKK K14
Stock on 2.5L OM602, '87 190D Turbo, '90-'93 300D, 3.0L OM606, '98-99 E300TD.
Thanks to Zeitgeist for the photo of his 606, that's a custom actuator and oilpan btw
   




Garrett VNT Turbos
Patent document : http://superturbodiesel.com/images/benz/...053579.pdf
GT2056V vacuum actuated
Found on the '05-06 Jeep Liberty 2.8L CRD. Unique flange.
GT2256V vacuum actuated
Found on the '01-03 Dodge/Freightliner Sprinter OM612 2.7L. 2000-style MB flange.
Thanks to DeliveryValve for the photo
   
GT2256V eletronically actuated
Found on the '04-06 Dodge/Freightliner Sprinter OM647 2.7L. 2000-style MB flange.
   



Wastegated Holset Turbos
HX30W
Found on the 4bt engines, Compressor inducer 42mm, compressor exducer 72mm T3 Flange
HY30W
Found on the 4bt engines (4btswaps.com is a good resource). Compressor 68mm T25 Flange.
HY35
Found on the 2000-2002 automatic Dodge Ram 5.9L. 9cm exhaust housing. T3 flange.
HX35W
Found on the 1998-2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L (only on manual for 2000+). 54mm inducer76mm exducer 10/12/16cm exhaust housings. Divided T3 flange.
HE341
Found on the 2003-2004 Dodge Ram 5.9L. T3 flange. Compressor 56/76 mm, Turbine 58/54mm.
[Image: he341.jpg]
HE351CW
Found on the 2004.5-2006 Dodge Ram 5.9L. 9cm exhaust housing.
HE300WG
Compressor 58/85mm, Turbine 65/52mm
8cm2 housing with "special" T4 flange (T4I?)
Can flow 66lbs/min and pr of 5

Holset VGT Turbos
HE351VE
Found on the 2007+ Dodge Ram 6.7L. 25cm variable exhaust housing. WGMT flange.


Members' Modifications
babymog's .55 Trim Garrett
3.5L turbo transplanted to a 3.0L OM603
87 300TD - OM603 3L - IP rack limiter removed - Summary
Captain America's Modded 60 trim Garrett
A stock 617 Garrett rebuilt with a 60 trim compressor wheel instead of 45 trim for better efficiency at high rpms.
82 300D - OM617 - Summary - Long Thread
olefejer's Holset HE341VE and HE351VE
96 SL320 - OM606 - modified 7mm IP - Summary
dieselboy's Holset HY35
80 300SD - OM617 - Summary - Long Thread
This post was last modified: 11-07-2014, 10:13 PM by winmutt.
aaa
04-14-2011, 06:59 PM #1

Admin edit: old thread is here http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...hp?tid=235 beware some of the specs are incorrect

Ok, I decided to totally redo the turbo information thread, with a collaborative approach.

We're going to list actual turbos members have used, with the model and engine, short blurbs on the characteristics it had (when does it spool up, when does it choke, does it surge, etc), any adaptation notes (flanges, clocking, etc), what it originally came off of, compressor/turbine maps, etc.

So anyone who's got an unusual turbo, come make a post in this thread, and give a quick summary on what the deal is with it, and possibly a link to a more in-depth thread of yours.

I will compile a list of these turbos, with a list of the members who posted about each one underneath (linking to that particular post).

We also need stock turbo information too, basic info like "Here's a KKK" and "Here's a Garrett". Wastegate adjustment procedures would be nice too.

I think I'll start with the electronic GT2256V I attempted to cram onto my om617. Need to snap more pics of it.



Exhaust Flanges
Thanks to Zeitgeist for the photo
   
T3 Flange
Used on most Mercedes 3L/3.5L engines til 1995.
T25 Flange
Used on 2.5L engines til 1995.
Late 90s MB Flange
I'm not sure what the real name for this is. At some point in the late 90s MB switched to this for the OM606 turbo and the Sprinter OM602. It is triangular, with a round opening in the middle.
2000-Present MB Flange
This is the flange MB uses on most of it's common-rail engines.
   



Stock Turbos
MB alternated between KKK and Garrett frequently. The KKK turbos spool up slightly faster.
KKK K26
Stock on 3.0L OM617, T3 flange. Not sure what years, generally later (82-85).
Garrett T3 .45 Trim (TAO301/TAO310/TAO314)
Stock on 3.0L OM617. '78-85 300SD, '82-85 300D, '81-85 300TD.
KKK K24
Stock on 3.0L OM603, T3 flange. '86-87 300SDL, '87 300D/TD.
Thanks to babymog for the photo
[Image: attachment.php?aid=4422]
Garrett T3 .50 Trim (TBO359/TBO360)
Stock on the 3.0L OM603, '86-87 300SDL, '87 300D/TD.
Compressor Inducer 42.5mm
Compressor Exducer 60.1mm
Turbine Exducer 48.62
Turbine Inducer 58.98
Thanks to babymog for the photo
[Image: attachment.php?aid=4423]
Garrett T3 .55 Trim (TB0369/TB03)
Stock on the 3.5L OM603, '90-91 350SDL, '92-95 300SD/S350. Has a more efficient compressor map for 603s.
CH A/R .52, EH A/R .48, Compressor 45mm/60 mm, Turbine 48mm
Thanks to babymog for the photo
[Image: attachment.php?aid=4427]
Garrett T25 (TB2510/TB2550)
Stock on 2.5L OM602, '87 190D Turbo, '90-'93 300D.
KKK K14
Stock on 2.5L OM602, '87 190D Turbo, '90-'93 300D, 3.0L OM606, '98-99 E300TD.
Thanks to Zeitgeist for the photo of his 606, that's a custom actuator and oilpan btw
   




Garrett VNT Turbos
Patent document : http://superturbodiesel.com/images/benz/...053579.pdf
GT2056V vacuum actuated
Found on the '05-06 Jeep Liberty 2.8L CRD. Unique flange.
GT2256V vacuum actuated
Found on the '01-03 Dodge/Freightliner Sprinter OM612 2.7L. 2000-style MB flange.
Thanks to DeliveryValve for the photo
   
GT2256V eletronically actuated
Found on the '04-06 Dodge/Freightliner Sprinter OM647 2.7L. 2000-style MB flange.
   



Wastegated Holset Turbos
HX30W
Found on the 4bt engines, Compressor inducer 42mm, compressor exducer 72mm T3 Flange
HY30W
Found on the 4bt engines (4btswaps.com is a good resource). Compressor 68mm T25 Flange.
HY35
Found on the 2000-2002 automatic Dodge Ram 5.9L. 9cm exhaust housing. T3 flange.
HX35W
Found on the 1998-2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L (only on manual for 2000+). 54mm inducer76mm exducer 10/12/16cm exhaust housings. Divided T3 flange.
HE341
Found on the 2003-2004 Dodge Ram 5.9L. T3 flange. Compressor 56/76 mm, Turbine 58/54mm.
[Image: he341.jpg]
HE351CW
Found on the 2004.5-2006 Dodge Ram 5.9L. 9cm exhaust housing.
HE300WG
Compressor 58/85mm, Turbine 65/52mm
8cm2 housing with "special" T4 flange (T4I?)
Can flow 66lbs/min and pr of 5

Holset VGT Turbos
HE351VE
Found on the 2007+ Dodge Ram 6.7L. 25cm variable exhaust housing. WGMT flange.


Members' Modifications
babymog's .55 Trim Garrett
3.5L turbo transplanted to a 3.0L OM603
87 300TD - OM603 3L - IP rack limiter removed - Summary
Captain America's Modded 60 trim Garrett
A stock 617 Garrett rebuilt with a 60 trim compressor wheel instead of 45 trim for better efficiency at high rpms.
82 300D - OM617 - Summary - Long Thread
olefejer's Holset HE341VE and HE351VE
96 SL320 - OM606 - modified 7mm IP - Summary
dieselboy's Holset HY35
80 300SD - OM617 - Summary - Long Thread

 
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Turbo Information Thread (Needs your contributions!) - by aaa - 04-14-2011, 06:59 PM
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