STD Tuning Engine Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator.

Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator.

Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator.

 
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janus
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07-17-2012, 07:03 AM #142
Hey guys,

some news, just got off the line talking to a guy working at Hella's actuators department and here is what I got:
This info is for the 6NW 008 412 and 6NW 009 420 (John/Tymbrymi was using this one imho) models, maybe others too but I just asked for these two. I was also asked for the G- designation on the aluminium housing, which should say something like G-139, G-149, ... but dunno what that is referring to.

Pinout as listed several times is
1: 12V
2: GND
3: CAN_H
4: PWM
5: CAN_L

According to him they feature both CAN and PWM, but it should also be possible to control the actuator using PWM only on Pin 4. So from what i was told there are no versions that are limited to CAN or PWM only. I was also told that there will be a grounding pulse on that pin 4 for about 1 second if there's an error. When using PWM only you will get kind of like an Open Loop control without any feedback about the actuators position. I guess CAN could be used for a greater sense of handling errors or feedback/closed loop control along with some parameters and details like that, but for me PWM OL control is just fine.

Also, from some other source, it appears the controller IC on the PCB is a variant of a L9805E from STmicroelectronics.

So I'll try again to interface that actuator I have but pretty sure it's just toast..

(10-23-2009, 03:51 PM)Tymbrymi
(10-23-2009, 01:41 PM)winmutt Kind of. Arduino only makes 5volts for the PWM signal Sad. Any chance of you testing with 5v? Still no luck getting a scope down here. I tested last night on two controllers no luck.

You'll need to get an n-channel logic level MOSFET. Basically it'll act as a 12V switch activated by a 5V signal. I can post more later if you want, but I'm feeling lazy right now so I'll post more about it later.

Anyone with some details on this or the Open Collector output stage? I don't know too much about those electronics Blush
Still not sure I did it right.. I used a function generator with a 10V, 140Hz PWM but nothing worked Sad When connecting 12V to Pin 4, wouldn't that make it receive a 100% DC signal? Or will I burn it up that way..

Thanks for any input
This post was last modified: 07-17-2012, 07:05 AM by janus.
janus
07-17-2012, 07:03 AM #142

Hey guys,

some news, just got off the line talking to a guy working at Hella's actuators department and here is what I got:
This info is for the 6NW 008 412 and 6NW 009 420 (John/Tymbrymi was using this one imho) models, maybe others too but I just asked for these two. I was also asked for the G- designation on the aluminium housing, which should say something like G-139, G-149, ... but dunno what that is referring to.

Pinout as listed several times is
1: 12V
2: GND
3: CAN_H
4: PWM
5: CAN_L

According to him they feature both CAN and PWM, but it should also be possible to control the actuator using PWM only on Pin 4. So from what i was told there are no versions that are limited to CAN or PWM only. I was also told that there will be a grounding pulse on that pin 4 for about 1 second if there's an error. When using PWM only you will get kind of like an Open Loop control without any feedback about the actuators position. I guess CAN could be used for a greater sense of handling errors or feedback/closed loop control along with some parameters and details like that, but for me PWM OL control is just fine.

Also, from some other source, it appears the controller IC on the PCB is a variant of a L9805E from STmicroelectronics.

So I'll try again to interface that actuator I have but pretty sure it's just toast..

(10-23-2009, 03:51 PM)Tymbrymi
(10-23-2009, 01:41 PM)winmutt Kind of. Arduino only makes 5volts for the PWM signal Sad. Any chance of you testing with 5v? Still no luck getting a scope down here. I tested last night on two controllers no luck.

You'll need to get an n-channel logic level MOSFET. Basically it'll act as a 12V switch activated by a 5V signal. I can post more later if you want, but I'm feeling lazy right now so I'll post more about it later.

Anyone with some details on this or the Open Collector output stage? I don't know too much about those electronics Blush
Still not sure I did it right.. I used a function generator with a 10V, 140Hz PWM but nothing worked Sad When connecting 12V to Pin 4, wouldn't that make it receive a 100% DC signal? Or will I burn it up that way..

Thanks for any input

 
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Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by tomnik - 08-18-2009, 09:13 AM
RE: electronic actuator? - by Tymbrymi - 08-25-2009, 01:15 PM
RE: electronic actuator? - by tomnik - 08-27-2009, 07:15 AM
RE: electronic actuator? - by winmutt - 09-01-2009, 09:01 AM
RE: electronic actuator? - by Tymbrymi - 09-01-2009, 09:28 AM
RE: electronic actuator? - by winmutt - 09-01-2009, 03:51 PM
RE: electronic actuator? - by tomnik - 09-01-2009, 09:49 AM
RE: electronic actuator? - by Tymbrymi - 09-03-2009, 08:31 AM
RE: electronic actuator? - by winmutt - 09-03-2009, 01:18 PM
RE: electronic actuator? - by Tymbrymi - 09-03-2009, 01:32 PM
RE: electronic actuator? - by winmutt - 09-03-2009, 02:23 PM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by winmutt - 09-04-2009, 08:21 AM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 09-04-2009, 11:30 AM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by winmutt - 09-04-2009, 03:17 PM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by winmutt - 09-04-2009, 12:29 PM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 09-04-2009, 01:36 PM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by winmutt - 09-05-2009, 10:26 AM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 09-05-2009, 10:14 PM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by winmutt - 10-22-2009, 11:22 PM
RE: Garrett VNT Hella actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 10-23-2009, 09:55 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 09-05-2009, 10:49 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 09-08-2009, 10:12 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 09-08-2009, 02:21 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 09-09-2009, 08:38 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 09-09-2009, 10:28 AM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by ForcedInduction - 09-14-2009, 04:09 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 10-19-2009, 02:29 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 10-20-2009, 10:51 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 10-23-2009, 01:41 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 10-23-2009, 03:51 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 10-27-2009, 08:42 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 10-28-2009, 09:48 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 10-28-2009, 10:34 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 10-27-2009, 11:36 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 10-29-2009, 12:21 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 10-29-2009, 02:12 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 10-29-2009, 05:01 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 10-29-2009, 12:38 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 10-29-2009, 02:06 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by piledriver - 10-29-2009, 08:07 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 10-29-2009, 09:29 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 10-30-2009, 08:25 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-02-2009, 11:25 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 11-03-2009, 03:48 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-03-2009, 04:01 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 11-05-2009, 10:32 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 11-04-2009, 04:53 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-04-2009, 09:36 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 11-05-2009, 12:26 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-05-2009, 01:38 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-06-2009, 04:22 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by muuris - 01-12-2010, 10:58 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 01-12-2010, 04:07 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by muuris - 01-13-2010, 05:39 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-08-2009, 03:40 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 11-09-2009, 02:40 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-14-2009, 05:00 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by cell - 11-19-2009, 03:35 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 11-21-2009, 03:32 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by ForcedInduction - 11-21-2009, 05:01 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by nockter - 12-05-2009, 01:40 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 12-07-2009, 02:08 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by lars - 12-08-2009, 05:25 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 12-08-2009, 11:21 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 12-08-2009, 07:19 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 12-14-2009, 03:28 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 01-12-2010, 04:45 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by kmaser - 01-12-2010, 05:52 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by cell - 01-23-2010, 08:09 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Kiwibacon - 01-23-2010, 08:23 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by cell - 01-23-2010, 08:25 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 01-26-2010, 04:02 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by ForcedInduction - 02-07-2010, 07:25 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 02-08-2010, 10:41 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by ForcedInduction - 02-11-2010, 02:13 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 02-18-2010, 10:36 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by cell - 02-19-2010, 01:30 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by 300SD81 - 03-30-2010, 01:19 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by racerxoffl - 10-19-2010, 11:39 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by TB206HDI - 09-23-2010, 02:56 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by dgn555 - 09-23-2010, 02:24 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 09-23-2010, 03:05 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by dgn555 - 10-03-2010, 06:53 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 12-01-2010, 03:46 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 12-01-2010, 10:39 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 12-02-2010, 02:58 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 12-02-2010, 07:48 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 12-02-2010, 09:07 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 12-02-2010, 10:03 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Tymbrymi - 12-02-2010, 12:31 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 12-08-2010, 06:31 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Biohazard - 12-01-2010, 10:53 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Biohazard - 12-06-2010, 01:32 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Captain America - 12-07-2010, 04:07 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 12-08-2010, 10:25 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 12-09-2010, 02:24 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 12-09-2010, 11:32 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 12-15-2010, 03:22 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by winmutt - 12-15-2010, 09:14 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 12-17-2010, 03:49 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Pali - 04-15-2011, 07:20 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by tomnik - 04-15-2011, 08:03 AM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 04-21-2011, 03:38 AM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Biohazard - 12-16-2010, 08:35 PM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Biohazard - 12-17-2010, 11:09 AM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 01-18-2011, 02:37 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Biohazard - 01-18-2011, 09:52 AM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Pali - 04-18-2011, 02:59 AM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Pali - 04-19-2011, 02:33 AM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 07-05-2011, 02:21 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by janus - 01-25-2012, 02:45 PM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 02-20-2012, 04:20 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by janus - 01-29-2012, 11:16 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Rub87 - 01-29-2012, 02:47 PM
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RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 02-22-2012, 05:42 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by janus - 07-17-2012, 07:03 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by Darqs - 09-25-2012, 03:46 AM
RE: Garrett 712120 VNT Hella 6NW 008 412 actuator. - by janus - 07-18-2012, 05:25 AM
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