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cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - MTUPower - 04-11-2015

Drop your hints/suggestions and tips to help me enlarge my stock exhaust.  I'm not wealthy so keep that in mind.  thx. 

How can I get a cheap but effective downpipe?  I have a stock turbo.  How about the rest of the exhaust?  thx in advance.


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - raysorenson - 04-11-2015

Get a 110v wire welder. Borrow it, get a used one, get one from wal-mart, whatever. Then get a band saw.

http://www.harborfreight.com/horizontal-vertical-metal-cutting-bandsaw-93762.html

Many stores will allow you to stack a coupon on top of a sale price. You can easily get one for 250 or less out the door. If you're not addicted to using it by the time you're finished, sell it on CL.

Cut mild steel bends on radius, make sure they fit up perfectly (easy task w/band saw) and tack them together with the welder. Take it to someone with a TIG to finish. Paint with exhaust paint if you're in a rust area.


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - DiseaselWeasel - 04-12-2015

An exhaust pipe cutter is MUCH cheaper than a band saw...!


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - ak47is1337 - 04-12-2015

serious question: where do you guys buy 3-4 inch exhaust metal cheaply?


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - raysorenson - 04-12-2015

Summit. Not sure if it's cheap but it's easy.


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - MFSuper90 - 04-12-2015

Honestly, it would probably be cheaper to go to your local metal provider and buy it. But I won't be aluminumized or anything fancy


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - ak47is1337 - 04-12-2015

Holy crap I searched for 3.5 inch/4.0 inch under the exhaust section at Summit Racing and the cheapest selections started at $250 for some piping


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - DiseaselWeasel - 04-13-2015

I don't know where the difference is to regular steel, but exhaust steel seems to be extremely valuable Big Grin

Stainless will be expensive, mild steel not so much.

No exhaust manufacturers nearby? I'd look for an exhaust shop localy and try to pick up some exhaust pipe there.


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - Booster - 04-13-2015

(04-12-2015, 11:23 PM)ak47is1337 Holy crap I searched for 3.5 inch/4.0 inch under the exhaust section at Summit Racing and the cheapest selections started at $250 for some piping

Buy the straight sections from your local steel shop for almost nothing, fancy madrel bent stuff will cost quite a bit, if you can cut angles ect you can do it that way. Just won't be as smooth as it could


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - Booster - 04-13-2015

(04-13-2015, 01:28 AM)DiseaselWeasel I don't know where the difference is to regular steel, but exhaust steel seems to be extremely valuable Big Grin

Stainless will be expensive, mild steel not so much.

No exhaust manufacturers nearby? I'd look for an exhaust shop localy and try to pick up some exhaust pipe there.

It's just Internet bullsh*t tax


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - barrote - 04-13-2015

314 stainless is not much expensive than 9XX type steel, wich u should select for your exaust.
in my country we buy it at steel suply stores price is by kg.
or u can go in junk yard and buy 3or 4 exaust system from trucs and adapt it to your needs.
regards.


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - Max - 04-13-2015

Hi,

i bought my exhaust Parts in 3" mild Steel from Simons.


Pretty cheap and goody quality.

Materialcost for a 3" exhaust on my 190D was about 200 € incl. Rear Silencer, clamps etc...

Just look for a distributor in your Country who sells Simons Parts.

Greets

Max



RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - raysorenson - 04-13-2015

(04-12-2015, 11:23 PM)ak47is1337 Holy crap I searched for 3.5 inch/4.0 inch under the exhaust section at Summit Racing and the cheapest selections started at $250 for some piping

wut? You're doing it wrong. They have 3.5 mild bends in the $40 range. A whole 3.5" mild steel exhaust build might end up using $250 in tubing and bends but that's not what I call expensive. Mandrel bent exhaust systems have never been "cheap" when compared to compression bend garbage.


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - MTUPower - 04-13-2015

Do I need to go bigger than 3 inch?  BTW I don't think I'll be buying a band saw and a welder for a one time job.  That'll be close to $500 - more than what I'd want to spend for one time use tools.  Just sayin'.
Super thanks for the tips and ideas- keep them coming!


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - led-panzer - 04-13-2015

Nah you don't need bigger than 3 inch. I can't imagine an exhaust shop would be horribly expensive if you purchased the necessary bends and had them weld/clamp it together with hangers and what not.

Whole thing, stainless that lasts forever, $400?


RE: cheap larger exhaust on my wagon. help me build/design it... - raysorenson - 04-13-2015

Lol, my bandsaw runs almost continuously. Best. tool. ever.

Butt welding stainless will need an argon back purge of the pipe or it won't last all that long. Mild is easier and tougher but has the rust thing.

Good fit of the pipes is important for good butt welds. With a bandsaw, my fitup is good enough for fusion welds (no filler metal) and I'm able to get my cuts on-radius the first try.

A nice cut and weld exhaust requires commitment to quality and detail that is labor and talent intensive.