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EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 10-29-2014
Hello guys,
The mighty 190D is scrapped because of rust, crakcs in every subframe fixing points++++.... Engine and gearbox is still alive, and all the good parts
The new car is a JDM supra TT 1995, bought it without engine and tranny...Perfect for me
The supra has the big brakes and big diff (low gear ratio) as standard.
It came also coilovers with adjustable hardness.
So why not build a mean trippel turbo compounded diesel machine and mount it in the supra???
Turbosetup is: 2x Holset he221W and one big sized to the two smaller he221W.
Dieselpump will be the 300cc 77500rpm+ high stroke camshaft that me and Gøran aka Dieselmeken bulit
Lets name the car The "WIN Diesel" Supra
Let the game begin!
From when i picked it up:
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After a good clean:
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Bought a do-luck fronbumper for almost free
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Cleaned out the interior!
Will convert it to LHD and with a custom steering rack
Before:
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After:
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The om606 resting on some wooden blocks:
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The big turbo mounted low. It is orientated oposite from normal turbo (As the Holset HT60 is oposite form the HX60)
It fits perfect with a 5" dp and full 5 or 4" exhaust the rest
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RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - CRD4x4 - 10-29-2014
That is sick!! Do you know how hard those Supras are to find?!
Good for you!!
I'm anxiously awaiting progress. This is gonna be legendary!!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Alcaid - 10-29-2014
You would be much better off with a properly built twin scroll manifold and a HX40 Super as the HP turbo. Twin turbo can not compete with the benefits of twin scroll. You need an 18cm exhaust housing to have the same turbine choke flow as 2 x HE221W 7cm. Compressor efficiency is also much better on the HX40 vs. the HE221W
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 10-29-2014
(10-29-2014, 07:20 AM)Alcaid You would be much better off with a properly built twin scroll manifold and a HX40 Super as the HP turbo. Twin turbo can not compete with the benefits of twin scroll. You need an 18cm exhaust housing to have the same turbine choke flow as 2 x HE221W 7cm. Compressor efficiency is also much better on the HX40 vs. the HE221W
Maybe a super 40 with 14cm housing?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Mark_M - 10-29-2014
You will need to swap the gearbox if you want to keep up with the fast and furious guys. Will need 20 gears at least lol.
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 10-29-2014
(10-29-2014, 09:20 AM)Mark_M You will need to swap the gearbox if you want to keep up with the fast and furious guys. Will need 20 gears at least lol.
I will only mount 4 zf gearboxes in series
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Mark_M - 10-29-2014
(10-29-2014, 09:32 AM)EDH_Performance I will only mount 4 zf gearboxes in series
That should do the trick
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - rafael cotrim - 10-29-2014
wiil be the best supra ever build!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Ksteen2 - 10-29-2014
Awesome!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - mantahead - 10-31-2014
awesome build, friend has some supra parts for sale if u need anything
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - hansebanger77 - 10-31-2014
It's longer dark and it's getting colder and there comes the crazy cars from the northern hehe
Nice Daniel
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - erling66 - 11-01-2014
Great new project Daniel
but I think you should have used that Ford 17M instead
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-03-2014
Thanks guys, it will be fun when i show up on trackdays with a black smoking supra^^
I made som stainless steel brackets for building new custom motormounts, so i will soon make them and a custom gearbox support!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - sorin_cel - 11-04-2014
Menthal project!world's first om606 supra!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-05-2014
(11-04-2014, 05:48 PM)sorin_cel Menthal project!world's first om606 supra!
Yes, i think it will even be the worlds first diesel mkIv supra
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - silverzx - 11-05-2014
Your house / drive / garage / view look beautiful.
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Tito - 11-05-2014
That engine bay looks huuuuuge btw....
Soooo this is the 3 turbo's setup again?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-06-2014
(11-05-2014, 06:13 AM)silverzx Your house / drive / garage / view look beautiful.
Hehe thanks, the garages is undergoing a massive rebuild, both are finish on the outside now compared to the photo, still alot to do inside
(11-05-2014, 04:21 PM)Tito That engine bay looks huuuuuge btw....
Soooo this is the 3 turbo's setup again?
Yes, there is a lot more play room in this one compared to the 190
This time i must build a trippel turbo....!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-07-2014
Made some brackets and got a BMW E39 steering rack mounted, it has a ratio of 3:1
So now it is soon to be LHD
Made some brackets and got a BMW E39 steering rack mounted, it has a ratio of 3:1
I am getting full lock both directions, so very happy with the conversion!
So now it is soon to be LHD
Just tackwelded a bracket ( This will be modified for much better strength):
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Rim/tyre hitting the lower support arm:
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Need to move the steering collum over to the left side and mate it to the BMW steering rack:
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Have now much better room for turbo+downpipe:
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Have good steering angle:
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RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-09-2014
Update:
Have welded the support for the steering rack, need prep and paint.
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Made a steering joint that fits on the steering rack and supra`s steering collum:
Stock BMW E49 joint:
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Supra and BMW joint:
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One finished joint:
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To get more out of the steering rack i will make some spacers for the inner joints.
I can get 8mm more without the joints, so i will make a 7mm spacer so the rack bottoms out on the joint and not on the rack itself:
Stock stop point:
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8mm further:
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This last 8mm does a whole lot on the steering angle! Will post pictures when it is mounted finally
Stay tuned for more fun^^
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-12-2014
Little update:
The bracket is done, only need prep and paint!
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Drilled hole for the steering collum:
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So tonight i will move the steering collum over to the left and install the seat!
Stay tuned...
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-13-2014
Got the steering collum almost finish today:
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Dont have a picture of the lengthen joint, but i made it 15cm longer as the steering wheel is now 15 cm further back.
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Stay tuned for more fun, next will be to make motor and gearbox mounts...
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-13-2014
making good progress
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - F.R.A.S - 11-16-2014
Damn, that's one awesome car. Great project. The guys at "Gatebil" will be black of envy
or......SMOKE hahahhah
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Turbo - 11-16-2014
Great project
at "300cc 77500rpm+" it will be mind blowing
keep up the good work
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-17-2014
(11-16-2014, 05:07 PM)Turbo Great project
at "300cc 77500rpm+" it will be mind blowing
keep up the good work
The fun starts after 75000 rpm you know^^
(11-16-2014, 01:45 PM)F.R.A.S Damn, that's one awesome car. Great project. The guys at "Gatebil" will be black of envy
...SMOKE hahahhah
Thanks
I don`t know of any other supra mkiv with a turbo diesel, so this could be fun
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-17-2014
Dont think there is one. only seen a s13 200sx with a 4bt cummings.but this is way sicker
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EmJay - 11-18-2014
This is going to be an epic build! I hope that isn't blood I see in the first thread next to the turbo.
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-19-2014
(11-18-2014, 09:23 PM)EmJay This is going to be an epic build! I hope that isn't blood I see in the first thread next to the turbo.
Haha, it is only some red paint after i painted my boat
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Stamsaas - 11-20-2014
More Merc Powered Toyotas!
Will you drive this to the summer?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 11-26-2014
(11-20-2014, 05:24 PM)Stamsaas More Merc Powered Toyotas!
It will be fun to attend a toyota street meet
Yes, my plan is to run it to the summer....Hopefully!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - StrikerofDeath - 11-28-2014
crazy! but.... very good!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 02-24-2015
Hi all,
time for an update. Have tore the motor down, built my High Pressure turbo and started on the manifold.
The turbo build:
Bought a brand new Holset HX35 with 50mm inducer comp wheel, watercooled center and 14cm wg exhaust housing.
Changed to a custom 56mm billet compwheel (hx35 was never delivered with this wheelsize) and housing and fitted a 12cm non-wg exhaust housing.
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New parts:
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I have also started to build the manifold, just tack welded everything together to see if it fits the car.
First i found the hight the turbo needs to sit:
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Then started the puzzle:
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Test fitted the manifold and turbo in the car:
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I have also started on the maingirdle, that also will function as a dry sump:
25mm steel plate
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RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Sjevsspeed.nl - 02-25-2015
damn dry sump, did u take the rest of the system of another car or fabricating everything urself?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - saquzi - 02-28-2015
That drysump plate looks heavy... 6/8mm plate on the gasget points should do it good enough!
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 02-28-2015
First one was 6mm, too thin...
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - saquzi - 02-28-2015
Why was it too thin?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 03-01-2015
Because it would just bend and twist...It will be working as a maingirdle and drysump, therefor it must be thick! Weight is no problem when it sits so low
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Duncansport - 03-01-2015
(03-01-2015, 07:06 AM)EDH_Performance Because it would just bend and twist...It will be working as a maingirdle and drysump, therefor it must be thick! Weight is no problem when it sits so low
+1 on this. I made mine from high carbon cold rolled steel at .750 thickness. Also I enlarged all the oil pan bolts to 8x1.25 and used arp studs throughout the pan bolts and main bolts. No dry sump for me though..
Nice work as always
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Turbo - 03-01-2015
Duncan can you make more of these?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Duncansport - 03-01-2015
(03-01-2015, 11:17 AM)Turbo Duncan can you make more of these?
I could be it would not be very cost effective.. i posted the design on the patterns section of this forum for anyone to use. It's in a auto-cad file and could be used straight away by a machinist.
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Turbo - 03-01-2015
(03-01-2015, 12:31 PM)Duncansport Hi Duncan
can you please link it so I can find it, have been trying without succes for a wile...
How did you do with the bearing bracket and to get right bearing play with torque on the bults under the support bearing for the chank shaft if I may ask?
I could be it would not be very cost effective.. i posted the design on the patterns section of this forum for anyone to use. It's in a auto-cad file and could be used straight away by a machinist.
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Duncansport - 03-01-2015
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?aid=7080
there are spacer welded on to the girdle between the main bearing cap and the base of the girdle. the use of longer studs is needed
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Turbo - 03-01-2015
Thank you dunkan for the drawing
As I have understud it when the gridle is made and the bearing bracket is put under (welded or not) and the stud is put in place with right torque bearing play need to be put to the right value by grinding with special tool, this since from one block to the other differ to much, Have I get this completly wrong?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 03-02-2015
Found one girdle for Om604 made by som crazy finns:
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Must be atleast 50mm thick!!
They managed to split the block in two
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Turbo - 03-03-2015
Daniel what do you think about the alignment/ clearance?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 03-03-2015
Very important is that when the maingirdle is bolted down, it does not put any extra stresses to the main bearing caps...Meaning the whole purpose is to maintain position on the main bearing cap in both down and side to side movement! Therefore it is not necsessary to linebore the main bearings, but i recomend to check the lineboring to be safe. The tolerances of the bearings caps should not alter with or without a miangirdle!
Just take a test, if you have acsess to a complete bottom end...Take a medium flat screwdriver and stick in betwheen a main bearing cap and crankshaft and try to bend. It will bend with not much force, therefor the need of a main bearing girlde when this extreme forces is put down to the crankshaft.
My maingirdle is thick because it is not only holding the bearings in place, it holds the whole crankshaft from being pushed down and out of the block. ARP bolts is to be used along with bigger bolts around where the original was used m6...
Seen blocks and main bearings break with high nm/hp numbers, so better build it strong from day one
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - EDH_Performance - 10-14-2015
It is time for an update i see
Went mad cutting into the firewall, so now the engine sits behind the front wheels.
Stock placement:
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After cutting into the firewall:
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The start of one motor mount:
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The LP turbo is positioned:
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Mocking up where water/air intercooler between LP and HP turbo + where the v-mounted radiator / intercooler will be in the front:
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There is more going behind the scenes, but not for this update!
Stay tuned for more diesel fun
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - atypicalguy - 12-27-2015
This is all really nice.
Will be interested to see it go.
I think Turbo has a point about the transient characteristics of the boost. It would be great to have something that did not need to bypass the hp turbo turbine or compressor.
I wonder what combination of turbos Stamsaas finally used on that Corolla?
RE: EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra - Turbo - 12-30-2015
Nice to see some progress, may I ask why you move the engine so fare back? space reason? centre of gravity?