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RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-14-2011

well ive been gathering parts to do my remote oil filter setup and got this turbo oil line to -4 AN hose adapter off ebay and noticed the oil hole is very small on one side the website says its to prevent to much oil pressure going straight to the turbo but it seems to small to me. What do you guys think should i drill it out a little more or leave it?
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RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-18-2011

Any suggestions?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 300D50 - 04-18-2011

I'd match it to what the old flange had, safe way to go.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-18-2011

(04-18-2011, 06:37 PM)300D50 I'd match it to what the old flange had, safe way to go.

thats what I was thinking but i wasnt sure if there was any restrictions on the other end of the line where it comes off the filter housing


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 300D50 - 04-18-2011

I don't think there is, iirc the line is the only restriction.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-19-2011

well i finally got around to removing the in tank pump and that was definately the problem. Its now way more smoother at higher rpms.

Just added a piece of hardline in place of the pump
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While I had the tank dropped I also modified the filler neck so I could fit a diesel nozzle in it
Just took a large punch and knocked out the restrictor
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Then welded back up the holes from the plug welds ripping out and voila!
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RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-23-2011

ok so ive been having a couple different issues now that ive been driving the truck everyday. The first is that I need to put a filter on the pickup in the tank because I will be driving then all of a sudden lose basically all power due to the fuel line getting plugged so i just pull the line off at the pre filter and blow in it with the air nozzle and that solves that.

Second problem im not 100% sure about. The last couple times I have gone to start the truck i have to hold the throttle to the floor to keep it running (barely) and it has quite a bit of blue smoke until it warms up then the smoke clears and it runs smooth. Im thinking this may be valve stem seals? Does anyone have any other ideas?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - stan - 04-23-2011

(04-23-2011, 02:48 PM)4rnnr33 The last couple times I have gone to start the truck i have to hold the throttle to the floor to keep it running (barely) and it has quite a bit of blue smoke until it warms up then the smoke clears and it runs smooth. Im thinking this may be valve stem seals? Does anyone have any other ideas?

maybe obvious but have you made sure your whole glowplug system is working properly?

have you made sure the valves are adjusted to spec?

have you done a compression test?





RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-24-2011

yes glowplug system works, valves are adjusted but i havent ran a compression test. I am also kind of thinking maybe this has to do with my turbo being worn out. I pulled off my intake hose and felt the propeller and noticed it has quite a bit of slop, enough to where it looks like it is hitting the compressor housing which i can also hear at certain rpms. I have heard of worn out turbos spraying out oil into the exhaust so maybe this has something to do with the smoke.. looks like its time to start searching for another turbo


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - larsalan - 04-24-2011

Want mine? I am trying my best to unload all this scrap. Though mine has quite a bit of play too and WA is a long way to ship it.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-24-2011

(04-24-2011, 04:44 PM)larsalan Want mine? I am trying my best to unload all this scrap. Though mine has quite a bit of play too and WA is a long way to ship it.

Ya sure any idea what it would cost to ship?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - larsalan - 04-24-2011

No, I will look into it. How much do you think it weights? It's still on the motor. We have been underwater for the last few days and they say there are a few more days till it drys out. I have some other work to do too but, I'll put your name on it.
The turbo housing is tapped for a water injection nozzle so, it would need a plug. 1/8 npt


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 04-24-2011

(04-24-2011, 06:33 PM)larsalan No, I will look into it. How much do you think it weights? It's still on the motor. We have been underwater for the last few days and they say there are a few more days till it drys out. I have some other work to do too but, I'll put your name on it.
The turbo housing is tapped for a water injection nozzle so, it would need a plug. 1/8 npt

Awesome I was actually thinking about and i think it should fit in a large flat rate box maybe. That wouldnt be too bad. And no hurry.




RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 05-02-2011

Well ive finally started putting together my remote oil filter setup. Heres a couple pics

Turbo feed line braided stainless hose with the ebay adapter
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And the adapter that I got from 300D50 which is very nice!
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Thats all for know I should have the rest pretty much buttoned up tomorrow


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 05-03-2011

Got it pretty much buttoned up today just have to get a couple more fittings and bolts
the pics are kinda crappy but its kinda tight so its hard to get a good angle but heres what i got
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RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 300D50 - 05-03-2011

Just make sure your fittings are letting oil flow to the turbo port!


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 05-04-2011

(05-03-2011, 10:08 PM)300D50 Just make sure your fittings are letting oil flow to the turbo port!

Yep I did I ended up clearancing the back of the turbo fitting just to be sure



RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - Captain America - 05-04-2011

(05-03-2011, 10:08 PM)300D50 Just make sure your fittings are letting oil flow to the turbo port!

Like the fittings stick through the back of the plate and block flow or something?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 300D50 - 05-04-2011

Yeah, depending on the fitting you use, you might need to trim the end a bit. It's a weakness of tapered pipe thread...


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - Captain America - 05-04-2011

(05-04-2011, 09:44 AM)300D50 ...It's a weakness of tapered pipe thread...

True that.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 05-12-2011

Ok so i need some help on deciding what turbo to get. I rebuilt my current turbo probably less than 500 miles ago and its already shot. I think the inside of the housing where the bushing sit was just too worn out leading to the early failure. So im now looking for a complete replacement and wouldnt mind upgrading it with somthing that will have some better performance. So any ideas?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - larsalan - 05-12-2011

http://www.amazon.com/GT35-R-GT35R-Bearing-Turbo-Charger/dp/B0040GYDOY/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1305246295&sr=1-1


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 05-12-2011

(05-12-2011, 07:25 PM)larsalan http://www.amazon.com/GT35-R-GT35R-Bearing-Turbo-Charger/dp/B0040GYDOY/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1305246295&sr=1-1

Is there a website with specs on that turbo? Particularly the exhaust flange



RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - Captain America - 05-13-2011

After seeing a BB turbo in person, I would jump on one in a second!


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - larsalan - 05-13-2011

(05-12-2011, 11:47 PM)4rnnr33 Is there a website with specs on that turbo? Particularly the exhaust flange

That page says this
Product Description
GT35-R BALL BEARING Turbo Charger Ball Bearing Compressor, Quick and Fast Spool High Quality Turbo, Each one is Computer Balanced and Tested. 4" Air Inlet 2.5" Compressed Air Outlet Standard T3 Turbine Housing Flange 4-bolt Exhaust Outlet , 3" OD Ball Bearing Compressor / Journal Bearing Turbine 300~500 WHP Oil and Water Cooled 6-25 PSI Working Pressure .70 A/R Compressor .63 A/R Turbine



I just posted that cause it was a 'cheap' ball bearing turbo. Though I can't seem to find it on their site.
http://www.cxracing.com/







RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 05-16-2011

What would you nguys think about somthing like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3T4-ball-bearing-turbo-charger-T3-T4-turbocharger-/230607658009?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b1499c19

or this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUPER-60-BALL-BEARING-TURBO-CHARGER-T3-T4-TO4E-50-63-AR-/230620276180?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b20a25d4


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 06-07-2011

woohoo finally got my turbo back from performance techniques. Damn it looks awesome. Heres some pics
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60 trim compressor wheel
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RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - Captain America - 06-08-2011

Looks Friggin Sweet!

Hows she run?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 06-08-2011

(06-08-2011, 02:48 AM)Captain America Looks Friggin Sweet!

Hows she run?

Its running great!

I also got some other things done today. Moved my battery to the drivers side so I could get my intake up front away from the exhaust.
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RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - mr_manny - 06-24-2011

looks like a nice air-filter solution.

where did you get those tubes, adapters?

thanks,
manny


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 06-24-2011

you should be able to find everything on siliconeintakes.com


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 10-29-2011

Ok so I havent been on here for a while but would like to bring this thread back from the dead. I havent really done much to the truck besides putting on 39.5" tires. I really am trying to come up with another motor mount solution because the poly mounts are creating way too much vibration. Does anyone have any good ideas on what to use for rubber mounts?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - willbhere4u - 10-29-2011

On the Mercedes they used soft rubber mount and little shock absorbers and let the engine shake a little but it doesn't shake the car at all


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 10-31-2011

so i ended up ordering a few of these
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They look like it should be pretty easy to modify my existing mounts to make these work they look like a pretty good style of mount I like the way the rubber sits in a tube which should make them plenty strong. More updates when they get here.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - JB3 - 10-31-2011

(10-31-2011, 01:15 AM)4rnnr33 so i ended up ordering a few of these

They look like it should be pretty easy to modify my existing mounts to make these work they look like a pretty good style of mount I like the way the rubber sits in a tube which should make them plenty strong. More updates when they get here.
what kind of mount is that? What application? Im looking for something like that too, I hate the soft rubber MB mounts because they are too difficult to remove and wont work where im putting them, but id be using chevy mounts, which I think will be way too hard and result in the same problem you are having with vibration. these look like some of both worlds


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 10-31-2011

They are for a 90-93 toyota celica and are anchor part # 8359. I ordered them off rock auto for about $10 a piece


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - iheartboost - 10-31-2011

wow this is so awesome. i love toyota pick ups. did you manage to keep its 4 wheel drive?


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 10-31-2011

(10-31-2011, 12:21 PM)iheartboost wow this is so awesome. i love toyota pick ups. did you manage to keep its 4 wheel drive?

Oh ya its mated to the toyota 5 speed which uses the stock t case



RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - iheartboost - 10-31-2011

yeaaaa thats the way to do it! lol. but do you plan for a soild front axel swap? i know its popular on those trucks

wish i could get a hold of an 86 my self. soild front stock Wink

also keep this updated. i would like to see what kind of mileage you get compared to the 22re. or w/e came in yours.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 10-31-2011

(10-31-2011, 01:13 PM)iheartboost yeaaaa thats the way to do it! lol. but do you plan for a soild front axel swap? i know its popular on those trucks

wish i could get a hold of an 86 my self. soild front stock Wink

also keep this updated. i would like to see what kind of mileage you get compared to the 22re. or w/e came in yours.

If you look through the thread you'll see its already been straight axled before I started the motor swap. And actually it was 85 that was the last year for straight axles and I can't remember if I posted it or not but when I had 37s and 5.29 gears I was able to get 21 mpg pretty easily which I consider very good for a lifted truck with 37" tires


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - iheartboost - 10-31-2011

thats not bad at all! and if you decide to convert over to WVO then you get free fuel! horray! lol.

but sorry about the not reading. pretty long just looked at the pictures HAHA


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - 4rnnr33 - 10-31-2011

(10-31-2011, 06:02 PM)iheartboost thats not bad at all! and if you decide to convert over to WVO then you get free fuel! horray! lol.

but sorry about the not reading. pretty long just looked at the pictures HAHA

I hear ya I do the same thing myself quite a bit its a lot of work to read through a long thread


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - toyfreak - 11-04-2011

(10-31-2011, 01:15 AM)4rnnr33 so i ended up ordering a few of these
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They look like it should be pretty easy to modify my existing mounts to make these work they look like a pretty good style of mount I like the way the rubber sits in a tube which should make them plenty strong. More updates when they get here.

Hmm, what model did you get those from? I know the alltracs 3sgte is a heavy 4banger, they might be strong enough to withstand some off road beatings. The guys that race alltracs end up making poly bushings because the stocks won't hold the torque from them.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - JB3 - 11-04-2011

(11-04-2011, 12:18 AM)toyfreak Hmm, what model did you get those from? I know the alltracs 3sgte is a heavy 4banger, they might be strong enough to withstand some off road beatings. The guys that race alltracs end up making poly bushings because the stocks won't hold the torque from them.

I had the exact same question for different reasons! Big Grin

He said 90-93 toyota celica, anchor part number 8359


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - toyfreak - 11-04-2011

I would say that the anchor # 8213 or 9119 would work better. They are designed for more abuse (seeing that its a rally car). They come on the 90-93 alltrac.

Some people have used 4bt mounts as well. I think my rubber spring bushing will last a while.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - pyrojoe22 - 04-13-2012

I have a few questions as I'm trying to get my OM617 finished up this weekend.

When you did the SAS, what kit and spring size did you run? Did you move the front hanger 3/4" forward? How far did you move the transmission mount back? What tranny are you running?

I ask all this because I'm running Trail-Gear's 5" HD springs with the front hanger 3/4" forward, and when I flexed it with the 22R in, the drag link didn't hit the tie rod, so I left the steering box where it was. I bought 4x4labs adapter kit, and my motor is so far forward, the crank pulley is 1 1/4" from the front frame cross member. I'd love to leave the engine where it is to reduce the amount of oil pan mods. I'd just really like to know if you moved the transmission/engine combo back, because that would shove the oil pan into the drag link even more. I'd move the tranny back if I didn't think it'd give me hell with with oil pan.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - BBCoffroad - 04-13-2012

(04-13-2012, 02:10 AM)pyrojoe22 I have a few questions as I'm trying to get my OM617 finished up this weekend.

When you did the SAS, what kit and spring size did you run? Did you move the front hanger 3/4" forward? How far did you move the transmission mount back? What tranny are you running?

I ask all this because I'm running Trail-Gear's 5" HD springs with the front hanger 3/4" forward, and when I flexed it with the 22R in, the drag link didn't hit the tie rod, so I left the steering box where it was. I bought 4x4labs adapter kit, and my motor is so far forward, the crank pulley is 1 1/4" from the front frame cross member. I'd love to leave the engine where it is to reduce the amount of oil pan mods. I'd just really like to know if you moved the transmission/engine combo back, because that would shove the oil pan into the drag link even more. I'd move the tranny back if I didn't think it'd give me hell with with oil pan.

on my swap if you looked at it i used the stock x member and tranny location i had to mod the oil pan alot to make it fit properly im in the proces of making a rear sump oil pan right now while offroading you will notice on inclines you will get 0 oil pressure with a front sump pan take a look at my swap maybe it will give you some ideas. and for your exhuast run a 3 inch straight pipe its sounds awsome.


RE: Toyota pickup OM617 swap - winmutt - 02-12-2014

I've been lusting after a 4runner lately. Nothing would make me happier than to throw a 602 in it......