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RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-03-2011
soooooooo i'm twiddling my thumbs until monday when i can go get the clutch hose section replaced, and then i should be able to go driving. in the meantime going to paint the remaining 2 wheels, hook up vacuum lines and things, and clean all my greasy handprints off the car
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-04-2011
tadaaaa! took the car for a drive today and got it registered.
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issues that popped up during driving today:
-brakes feel clunky, rotors seem to be mildly warped
-need to get vac lines hooked up properly so key will shut it off
-oil leak appears to be coming from the vacuum pump housing (minor)
-need to put the fuel door back on
stuff that i still need to do as well:
-center support replacement (rubber)
-buff the rest of the car out
-paint the remaining 2 wheels + get 4 new tires
-hook up oil pressure sender, speedo cable, shutoff valve
-power steering belt + fluid install
and now i leave you with a video:
RE: stan's 240D - garage - 04-04-2011
OH, how i miss driving a stick..
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-06-2011
WTF? i go out to take the 240D for a drive today and discover that someone egged it.
RE: stan's 240D - garage - 04-06-2011
Seriously??????
What is that about....
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-06-2011
dude i dunno. obviously someone was just so jealous of my insanely awesome clean 240D that they were overcome with rage and had to ugly it up a bit. so they drove home and got their eggs and came back to exact revenge. only my car got egged too! and it was parked a mile from my house and nobody around here knows me!
RE: stan's 240D - garage - 04-06-2011
Probably some dumb kids fucking with people shit randomly.
I know ive done worse..
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-06-2011
in other news, it seems to be running hot. temp gauge reading 90*C - i'm thinking maybe it just needs a new thermostat - would a thermostat failure possibly cause the thermostat to switch at a higher temp and thus the car runs hot but not super hot?
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-07-2011
Another item to deal with - transmission ground strap. The stock one is not insulated, which was an issue today. It touched the ss clutch flex line I have now and when I tried to start the engine I got a puff of smoke! It heated the clutch line up and started to make the brake fluid (from when I was bleeding it) smoke! Stuck a rag in the way and it was back to normal. Going to use an insulated one instead now.
RE: stan's 240D - yankneck696 - 04-07-2011
A ground strap should not need to be insulated. Chech your main engine ground. Also, use a AOM to see if you find positive on the braided line. You have a weird issue there.
Ed
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-08-2011
just put in an order for a new center support bearing / rubber, exhaust hangars, thermostat, transmission rubber mount (crossmember), and vacuum pump gasket. i am 99% sure that the oil leak i have right now is around the vacuum pump - i think i messed up when installing the gasket last time.
heater works! tested it out and it blows nice and hot. still need to figure out the vacuum lines in the engine compartment, and splice up the starter solenoid wire.
hopefully the stuff arrives before the 16th so i can be less sketched about making the drive to SD!
RE: stan's 240D - JB3 - 04-08-2011
after all this great work, I hope you don't have to sell it immediately.
Cause of this thread, Im painting my snow tire rims silver for next winter
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-09-2011
took it out for a nice afternoon drive today, and dropped by my detailer friend's house to do a little more work on the paint. temps are not too bad, looks like maybe 85 degrees while cruising. hopefully that gets better after a new thermostat, flush, and fill with zerex (running water right now).
so shiny!
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RE: stan's 240D - George3soccer - 04-13-2011
looks really good stan, hope you can keep it, and make it a STD
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-14-2011
weeeeoooooo got the power steeering all hooked up purged and running. soooo much nicer to drive now.
temps are not too bad, running about 85*C, but i will still be putting the new tstat in just for good measure.
finished buffing the paint today, it looks GORGEOUS now. seriously stoked.
RE: stan's 240D - 300D50 - 04-14-2011
Yeah, PS is awesome when it works!
And if I had a dime for every time I was going to get rid of my truck(s), I'd have a grand. I have strong doubt you'll let this old German babe of a car out of your life.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-18-2011
welp, looks like the 240D is going up for sale once i get the remaining stuff fixed. fuckin job market
RE: stan's 240D - makin' smoke - 04-19-2011
WHAT?
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-21-2011
one of my friends who has bought, owned, and sometimes sold off again over 10 W123s said he thought i should put a clean set of bundts on the car if i'm going to sell it. any thoughts?
RE: stan's 240D - makin' smoke - 04-21-2011
240's never came with them, but they would be better than hub caps. I used to hate the bundt wheels. Especially chrome ones! I have a set if interested, they have been refinished, tires are ok. Definitely runable. I like the alum. 240's. Trade?
RE: stan's 240D - JB3 - 04-21-2011
all this work, and you never get to enjoy the car for very long. Shame. Personally, id sell the newer car since it will generate far more cash than even a pristine 240 will.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-21-2011
(04-21-2011, 11:46 AM)dropnosky all this work, and you never get to enjoy the car for very long. Shame. Personally, id sell the newer car since it will generate far more cash than even a pristine 240 will.
without a long detailed explanation, the newer car was a gift from grandparents after i was having reliability problems with the last car (wagon) and failed a couple classes. the car is mine and titled to me, but it would be reeaalllly ungrateful to turn around and sell the car for cash.
RE: stan's 240D - DeliveryValve - 04-21-2011
Well that's a shame. What year is this car?
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RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-21-2011
(04-21-2011, 12:55 PM)DeliveryValve Well that's a shame. What year is this car?
which? the 240D is an 81. my vw is a 2007 GTI
RE: stan's 240D - mike-81-240d - 04-21-2011
240D's did come with bundts. At least '83's did.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-27-2011
hey does anybody know if the newer style om617 vacuum pumps (with the main vacuum hose & intake hose going to the airbox) will fit my 616 (only has the single hookup)
still putting off selling the benz, hopefully the job hunt pans out. dropping off an application at the kragen by my house, that would be a useful employee discount to have!
testing out aircraft stripper on one of my bundts (i fucking hate sanding shit) and it looks to be working well. if this one works out, will do my other one, and get two more from the junkyard to do.
RE: stan's 240D - 300D50 - 04-27-2011
See if the holes line up by ordering a gasket for each one, that's how I'd do it. The mechanicals should be the same from there.
And I read that as "testingg to be a stripper for the airlines"... seriously WEIRD mental image...
RE: stan's 240D - dieselboy - 04-27-2011
There's 2 different style vacuum pumps. A roller ramp style and a spline driven one.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 04-28-2011
yeah, my single outlet 616 pump is roller style, and i've seen photos of 617 double fitting ones that are also roller style.
RE: stan's 240D - dieselboy - 04-28-2011
I'll check the one at my house.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 05-11-2011
no news, school is consuming my life :-( i go check on the benz every few days to make sure its ok.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 05-22-2011
sale seems to have been averted for the time being!
my friend is working on leasing a shop about 30 mins from my house, and may even be putting a lift in! will hopefully be able to bring the 240 up there and continue work on it
going to be a pretty cool little space - cars that will be parked in there as soon as its leased: '73 bmw 2002 (he crashed it into a tree, now we're fixing/restoring it), his '84 toyota landcruiser (real clean!), and my '81 mb 240D.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 05-27-2011
fuck. got a letter from the dmv about my registration getting suspended if i dont get an insurance policy on the benz specifically. i have a feeling im going to be back to having to sell it :-( :-( :-(
workign on moving into the shop, cleaning it up, etc. pretty cool little spot!
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RE: stan's 240D - larsalan - 05-27-2011
Esurance.com minimum coverage is like $40/mo in my state.
RE: stan's 240D - Captain America - 05-28-2011
Put in Non-Op if your not driving it... then no insurance needed and no registration needed
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 10-28-2013
aaaaand we're back. working on getting it back on the road after years of sitting.
in the last couple days:
-new center support bearing installed, driveshaft put back into car (it'd been on the garage floor for a while)
-set of new tires installed, wheels back on the car
-found the new battery i bought and never installed (1+yr ago), gonna see if it takes a charge
-new hardware holding the air filter housing in place so it doesnt rattle like crazy
things that i have to sort out:
-the oil pressure gauge send line is currently hanging free with a screw plugging it, idk what i was planning but i gotta figure out how to hook that back up
-gotta crawl under and reinstall the speedo cable, no biggie
-last time i drove it, the vac shutoff wasnt working, and the vac locks were acting weird. gonna have to go through the whole vac system :-\
-power steering has a leak somewhere i guess, it's empty.
-i vaguely recall i needed to troubleshoot the glow plug system, dunno whats up with that, we'll see when i get the battery going
-need to hook something up between the intake and the valve cover vent, idk if i can find some bits and pieces to put something together or if i'm going to have to find the oem parts for that....
other random parts i need to buy / replace:
-hood star
-spare tire deck
-antenna mast
thats all for now, i'll try and remember to keep this thread updated
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 10-29-2013
i love these cars sometimes. always seems it takes >5 days to diagnose/troubleshoot an issue, and <5 minutes to fix it.
while scratching my head about the glow plug system, i discovered that the strip fuse on the relay is not there. dunno how i never checked that, since it has to have been that way as long as i've had this thing in my possession.
the crappy econo power battery that i bought randomly like a year ago is dead, and the battery tender is refusing to even try charging it, so it looks like tomorrow is battery and fuse shopping. hopefully the thing glows and cranks properly with that sorted out. and i noticed in my old posts on this thread that the currently installed glow plugs are the really bad kind, so i'll be hunting down proper ones asap.
RE: stan's 240D - JB3 - 10-29-2013
where have you been all this time?
you kept the car obviously, figured you sold it and moved on to a VW stance forum with a bunch of circle jerking 16 year olds ripping out oil pans, but you haven't said hellaflush once yet.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 10-29-2013
(10-29-2013, 08:29 AM)JB3 where have you been all this time?
you kept the car obviously, figured you sold it and moved on to a VW stance forum with a bunch of circle jerking 16 year olds ripping out oil pans, but you haven't said hellaflush once yet.
life, work, etc. running a vape shop (e-cigs) with a buddy these days. car's just been sitting this whole time and i keep thinking i'll sell it but then never get around to buttoning it up for sale. now that i'm working on it, i'm wanting to keep it
put in a duralast platinum battery that is a big bigger than a group 49 but fits fine, installed 80 amp strip fuse and BOOM engine started! that was short lived though and it died after a bit of idling, i think there's air in there, gonna try loosening the injector lines to bleed anything out of there, and the usual system bleed spot. also picked up a new hood ornament when i grabbed the strip fuses.
noticed some fuel leaking from the return line on the #1 cylinder (closest to firewall) so i'll have to figure out what that's about. noticed that when i replaced the lines previously, i put a plugged line on the 2nd fitting of the #1 cylinder's injector, dunno if that's the right way so maybe that will get changed too.
yep it was air, runs perfectly now.hurray!
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 10-30-2013
new beru coolant temp sensor installed.
looks like i replaced the oil pressure gauge line previously, there's a proper one coming through the firewall. going to hook that up and see if it works.
looking more carefully at the power steering system (which has always had a leak) it looks like the low pressure line is leaking where the hose slips on and is clamped to the fitting on the steering box side. going to try replacing that (with proper hydraulic hose, not heater hose) and see if the leak goes away. i know that when the system has fluid, it works perfectly fine, so if that leak is the only issue that'll be cool.
going to order new glow plugs since autozone didn't have them.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 10-31-2013
speedo cable all hooked up now.
pulled the power steering low pressure return line, the lower end (steering box side) is all cracked and junky, looks like that is the source of the leak. further supporting that theory is the fact that the pump is empty, but the steering box fitting had plenty of clean fluid sitting in it when i pulled the hose, suggesting the leak isnt in the box or rack. gotta hunt down a proper replacement and see if that fixes the issue.
RE: stan's 240D - willbhere4u - 10-31-2013
It should be bomb proof when your done uber reliable.
RE: stan's 240D - JB3 - 10-31-2013
(10-31-2013, 01:35 PM)willbhere4u It should be bomb proof when your done uber reliable.
x2. I gave one to a Haitian friend of mine years back Im still in contact with, a 1979 240D 4-speed in cream like this one. Thing was rotted out and ugly, but like 150k on it.
He shipped it down to Haiti for his family to use I think 6 or 7 years ago. Thing was in the center of Port-au-Prince during the earthquake and survived it apparently. The guy lost a lot of family unfortunately, but his rusty old car is still going.
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 11-01-2013
had a busy day at work, so no parts got picked up, but i'm eyeing out some stuff in the meantime.
on the vacuum lines, my ignition supply / shutoff valve lines are correct, my door lock and vac res lines are correct, but i found two danglers. one is black with a yellow strip, i believe that's a cruise control (which i removed) supply line as it doesnt go into the firewall and isnt hooked to anything. the other is coming from the port below the fusebox and is much thicker but still the same plastic material, and has a gray plastic nut at the end. what is that?
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 11-05-2013
getting busy at work again, but this morning i got a chance to fiddle with the vac system. it's all hooked up right now and the central locking is working proper. shutoff from the ignition isnt working, but a syringe pulling on the IP shutoff works fine. no vacuum on the line when the key is off, so i am guessing it's a bad valve on the ignition side of things. dunno how much of a bear it's going to be to replace that :-\ but at least the vac system and the engine shutoff are straight!
RE: stan's 240D - willbhere4u - 11-05-2013
Its not to bad the speedometer cluster has to be out to work on it. There are two hoses hook one up to the switch you can blow through when the ignition is off and cant when the switch is in the on position.
removal at this point is easy turn the key on one or 2 two positions put A PAPERCLIP IN THE LITTLE HOLE ON THE FRONT OF THE SWITCH turn the key until the paper clip pops in then the outer black shell will unscrew and the ignition tumbler,retaining ring,key,paperclip come off in your hand. set it aside do not remove the paper clip. then under the dash there is a clamp on the column remove it i think it 10mm. then there is a little button you have to press in and the whole unit slides out of the steering column. it will not fit out from behind the dash if the key tumbler is still in it.
as I remember the vacuum shut off part is rebuild able or replaceable if its not working
as for vacuum lines one line goes from the switch to vacuum and the other goes to the shutoff on the injection pump. Its that simple vacuum through the switch when off no vacuum when on
RE: stan's 240D - JB3 - 11-05-2013
x2 ^^^
here is the bit on the ignition, its held on by two flat head small machine screws, which are just possible to unscrew in position if you have one of those 90 degree small screwdrivers
Blue line is when the ignition is on, red is when off
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RE: stan's 240D - willbhere4u - 11-05-2013
(11-05-2013, 10:46 AM)JB3 x2 ^^^
here is the bit on the ignition, its held on by two flat head small machine screws, which are just possible to unscrew in position if you have one of those 90 degree small screwdrivers
Blue line is when the ignition is on, red is when off
You can remove and check the valve. there is a plastic cam inside the switch it rides on that can also wear out. also a hole in the hose or a disconnected line are very common
RE: stan's 240D - stan - 01-01-2014
well, disaster has struck - my GTI had a major engine-destroying failure and now needs a new long block (~$5k). so now the 240D gets priority! sucks, but at least i have a backup.
replaced the power steering low pressure return line (steering box-->pump). afaik original part is 12mm ID, closest i could find right now was 12.5mm so i installed that and we'll see if it leaks. refilled the system and put a new belt on, appears to be working so far.
did an oil change for good measure since the thing has been sitting and it was cheap enough to just do. new filter + delo 15w40.
it now runs and drives around the block and seems fine other than the known existing issues. taking it to my mechanic on tuesday to have him poke around and see if i missed any major stuff before i start daily driving this car 1hr north for work.
RE: stan's 240D - JB3 - 01-02-2014
how did you kill the GTI?