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my benz - rikardo_td190 - 01-06-2009

Hello, my name is Ricardo from Portugal and I am lover of mercedes benz, w201 as I have a 2.5 turbo diesel (122hp) turbo KKK, 5-speed manual, but unfortunately my engine is coming to an end, now I'm confused and I liked to know your opinion ... I was thinking about buying a w202 c250 turbo diesel bumpy and you get this engine to work without ECU with my injector pump and I get to 200hp is possible? And that will give more material in my w201? Differences? Has anyone done this? All ideas welcome ... Excuse my English but use a translation program ... Greetings

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RE: my benz - tomnik - 01-06-2009

Hi Ricardo,

my personal opinion is to stay with your current IP and upgrade to 7 mm elements and larger turbo.

Tom

RE: my benz - winmutt - 01-06-2009

(01-06-2009, 06:44 PM)tomnik Hi Ricardo,

my personal opinion is to stay with your current IP and upgrade to 7 mm elements and larger turbo.

Tom

I think he wants a new engine and use the old IP to get around the ECU. Is the w202 a CDI?

RE: my benz - tomnik - 01-07-2009

(01-06-2009, 10:49 PM)winmutt [quote='tomnik' pid='1973' dateline='1231285497']

I think he wants a new engine and use the old IP to get around the ECU. Is the w202 a CDI?

I believe it is the rotary IP version (not sure). Rust and quality issues like on the 210 bodies!

Tom

RE: my benz - ForcedInduction - 01-07-2009

The C250 he is talking about would be the OM605, a car we can only dream of getting in the states.

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 01-07-2009

That engine (605) but to work with my injector pump (602 ).... more material that would give a car (w202) to another (w201)? Someone already did? Thank you for everything Smile

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 01-14-2009

So what is the best engine for my car? om 602 vs 605

RE: my benz - ForcedInduction - 01-15-2009

Both are great engines but the 605 has far more potential.

Converting the W202 to mechanical linkage for the pump would be difficult but doable. The hard part would be how the transmission would be controlled since its electronic too.
Swapping your 602 for the 605 would be somewhat more difficult since it requires an intercooler.

In either case, you would have to change the wastegate control to a normal actuator instead of vacuum control.

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 01-26-2009

Hello, I want to thank all the information and support they gave me, here are my latest changes, the turbo 1.2 bar, more 2cm cubic injector of diesel at the pump, and two turns of the screw ALDA ... but frankly I see little difference at the level of Power... Sad

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RE: my benz - ForcedInduction - 01-26-2009

Unless you upgrade the pump with larger plungers, you are limited to about 140hp worth of fuel in the W201. 1.2bar is too much for that, you barely need 1 bar.

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 01-26-2009

ForcedInduction friend because I can give you more diesel? It is that my father always discuss this with me ... and smoke because it also is always saying that diesel in excess it can from piston .. The 2cm cubic was my friend who was with the pump connected to the machine for analysis .. I wanted the car faster, my dad says I'm crazy loooooooooooooooool Smile

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 02-06-2009

diesel as I need more? to 1.2bar? how many turns of the screw adjustment on the IP?

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 02-07-2009

help please Sad

RE: my benz - ForcedInduction - 02-08-2009

Even if you adjust your pump to push maximum fuel you won't need more than 1bar.

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 02-08-2009

if I continue with the project OM605 can count on your help?

RE: my benz - ForcedInduction - 02-08-2009

The 605 is just a 606 with one less cylinder, it shouldn't be a problem to help with.

RE: my benz - rikardo_td190 - 02-09-2009

ok, thanks to all ... my gearbox is in om605?

hug

RE: my benz - Benzbeliever - 02-14-2009

(01-07-2009, 04:27 AM)ForcedInduction The C250 he is talking about would be the OM605, a car we can only dream of getting in the states.

Not totally a dream. There's a guy over at FTE forum with a love of American cars. He has had a couple shipped over the pond at reasonable prices. He said it cost him $1200 to ship a 8000lb truck from Baltimore to Germany.

If you think about some of the extremes we will go threw swapping and modding what we have here in the states it makes it not seem so crazy to have the car you want shipped in from over seas.

We sure got the short end of the stick when it comes to diesel powered passenger vehicles to choose from.