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Brass linkage bushings and shortening shifts
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Brass linkage bushings and shortening shifts
Figured Id move these links that Charmalu found into their own thread because they look like excellent ideas! Here are a few teaser pics-
   
   
   
   
   

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"Last night I was Googling for some info on the Getrag 5-spd trans. I came across a web site in the UK.
http://mercedes-190.co.uk/forums/5951

some of them are using brass bushings on the shift linkage to tighten up the shifts, in stead of using the rubber/nylon.
http://mercedes-190.co.uk/topic/217321/1/

there were 2 thread on shortening the shift throw
http://mercedes-190.co.uk/topic/6576914/1/

http://mercedes-190.co.uk/topic/222107/1/

I haven`t seen one yet, but there is a 6 spd Getrag, with 5th 1:1 and 6th OD. they come in the SLK 230 W203, not sure is that model come over to this side of the pond.
http://mercedes-190.co.uk/topic/6568052/1/"
01-18-2010 08:52 AM
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RE: Brass linkage bushings and shortening shifts
I would be interested in a set of longer arms. I need to pull my spare shifter apart in preparation of making a 5 spd shifter.

1985 300D "It" Dark Anthracite Grey, 4spd Manual, Euro Bumpers+OEM Tow, Euro Hella 4, 15x7.5 ACT. Bilstein HDs. Vogtland Sport Springs 50mm drop, Muffler Delete Option. 15mm/26mm sway bars. SEC brakes. Gwagen 23cm clutch.
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01-19-2010 03:52 PM
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RE: Brass linkage bushings and shortening shifts
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Bushing for the gear lever.These measure said 18,45 outer,8,3 width and 6mm inner diameter.

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Bushings for the shifter arms at the box.These measure 25mm diameter at the section that goes through the arm.The flange is 30mm outer on 2mm width.
Bushing protrudes 3,5mm into the arm per se and the through hole is 9mm flat for the shifter rod.

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Bushings for the arms at the bottom of the shifter per se-underneath the car.
Dimension are....
Flange dia 25mm
Where it protrudes through the arm=15mm on a 3mm width

Through hole for the shifter rod is again 9mm flat.

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Just wanted to get the pertinent info up there. I agree with one of the posters on that forum, get them made at a local machine shop.
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2010 06:31 PM by CID Vicious.)
01-19-2010 06:29 PM
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RE: Brass linkage bushings and shortening shifts
I had to replace the transmission in my 240d because of loose shifter bushings

It accidentally got stuck in 2 gears and stuck 1st gear out of the side of the case I used 2,3,4 gear to get it to my shop even after it leaked all of it's fluid out! It made lots of bad noises except in 4th it worked great

on a side note I have a core 4spd trans slight damage! lol

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1980 240d 4spd turbo test mule for engine swap ^
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/old-...t-447.html
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01-19-2010 08:20 PM
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RE: Brass linkage bushings and shortening shifts
trying to figure the shift throw out beforehand with a diagram and some rusty geometry/algebra so I know just how much to lengthen the linkage under the shifter as related to degree of swing on the shifter. Someone check my math!

Assuming the stock shift throw degree is “X” and the desired shift throw is “Y”.
Assuming the stock Length above the fixed point (shift handle) is L1 and the length to alter is L2.

We know that the angle of the shift throw is inversely proportional to the length below the pivot. In other words, the shorter the shift knob, the higher the degree below the pivot.

So the equation would look like

L2/X =L1/Y,

For example, if we measure the stock configuration degrees of movement of the stick handle, and we know how much we want to reduce it by which gives us our desired degree of movement, lets say a shift that moves half the distance.

So for fun, if L1 =10”, X = 30 degrees, Y= 15 degrees, then,

L2/30=10/15,

L2= 20” (your total length below the fixed point)

Im not sure Im setting this up properly, and if I really remember how to do equations like this, but we should be able to exactly calculate just how far to modify the linkage under the shifter by the number of degrees we want the shifter to move. I feel like I did something wrong here though, because the relationship is reverse in real life, the shifter handle is longer than the linkage bar directly underneath


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1980 240D Custom 5-speed

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(This post was last modified: 02-10-2010 03:55 PM by dropnosky.)
02-10-2010 12:22 PM
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