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Here are pictures of various 617 exhaust manifolds I've collected and thought it would be useful for some to see the differences. If there are any more variations please post them.

EGR Turbo Manifold

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1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom:front view (Notice single runner on rear exhaust ports - on left.)

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1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom : top view

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1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom: back view

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N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

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1978 N/A Manifold - left vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - Right

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EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: top view

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EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom (Notice dual runners for rear exhaust ports): front view

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EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: back view

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N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D - Exhaust ports 1, 3, & 4 are exit the top port. Exhaust ports 2 & 5 exit lower port.

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N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: Back view

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N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: top view

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N/A Manifold from 1975 w115 300D- left vs N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

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W115 N/A Manifold - Top vs Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold - Bottom

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W115 N/A Manifold - Left vs w123 N/A Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold.

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OM603, TrapOx
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OM603, non-TrapOx
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TrapOx/Oxcat
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E320 CDI
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"Hi tuned" T04 manifold, OM617
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That HI tuned one's pretty! Is that aftermarket?

Where did that Hi Tuned manifold come from?

eBay several years ago. I haven't been able to find any information on it and the seller didn't know anything about its source either.

Thats an awesome find forced!
Seems like your always coming across the cool shit.

Found this in
Google Books

It referres to a Dutch company, Van Zijverden Turbo B. V.

I'll add one

(09-07-2010 08:34 PM)shredator Wrote: [ -> ]I'll add one

Thats fucking gorgeous!
Exactly what i want for my 616

Any pics of it installed?

(09-07-2010 08:34 PM)shredator Wrote: [ -> ]I'll add one

Wow, welded straight to the cast manifold .... That's interesting! Don't think I've seen that done before...

I've heard that steel to cast requires a low hydrogen welder for proper bonding. But if anyone knows of where to find another 617 turbo hi tuned manifold is pm me, I will buy one.

Add from member Einar's post.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/turb...-1731.html

615/616 aftermarket turbo manifold.
Grenrör med IHI RHB5-fläns till Mercedes 200/220/240D W123.

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http://www.gikturbo.se/performance/avgas...cedes.html



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OK.Which manifold and turbo is best for a stock 84' OM617 with only IP tweeks and a free flowing exhaust?I'm looking for direct bolt on from another common Mercedes engine.Maybe the original is best?

Intake and exhaust manifolds from a 78-79 300SD. They eliminate the EGR completely and the exhaust manifold flows more freely due to larger passages.

Thanks.That's good info.

om603 euro on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-exhaust-m..._500wt_922

looks to me like a 606 manifold, hence the triangular k turbo flange.

(10-19-2010 01:51 PM)winmutt Wrote: [ -> ]om603 euro on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-exhaust-m..._500wt_922

That's clearly OM606 manifold. Triangular turbo flange and wide exhaust valve ports.

Interesting maybe I need to look at a om606 turbo to replace my Rajay turbo on my 240d turbo???

(09-15-2010 05:08 AM)ForcedInduction Wrote: [ -> ]Intake and exhaust manifolds from a 78-79 300SD. They eliminate the EGR completely and the exhaust manifold flows more freely due to larger passages.

Are you sure that the later manifolds didn't narrow up the passages to keep the velocity up on the exhaust gasses to spool the turbo at lower rpms?

Thats exactly what they did because the EGR steals exhaust.

(10-19-2010 07:59 PM)ForcedInduction Wrote: [ -> ]Thats exactly what they did because the EGR steals exhaust.

So would you agree a 79 manifold gives better topend power due to better flow while an 82+ manifold with the EGR capped would give better lowend power due to better spooling?

No. With the EGR capped you still have the volume of the tube to fill and the turbulence created by the port.

I'm new here today.

I have an original 240d TURBO KIT new, still in the box..

It is the last one the Wolf Fengler built. What's it worth, anybody interested?

Greg
http://www.vixenrv.com
406.587.8148
info@vienrv.com

Is it like this one I put on my 240d??? please take some pics!

OM602 Manifold
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Too bad this will not fit on the 617.




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Would heat transfer cause issues and gasket failures using a one piece flange on a OM617?By one piece, I mean all exhaust ports and intake ports on one single flange.

I can definitely see gasket issues with that.

Thanks.That was my thoughts but wasn't 100% sure.

Thats why Mercedes designed the larger 4-part gasket to replace the original flat metal gasket.

What are the factory OM617 gaskets made of?Do copper or aluminum ones work well on a turbo diesel?I've only used aluminum and copper on gassers.Great success there.

1985 617 Cali Manifold for Trap Oxidizer.

Bottom picture courtesy of dieselboy.

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STT OM617 turbo manifold.

pics courtesy of forum member Merlot.

That's sweet mani.Are they available to buy?What vehicle(s) did they come on?Aftermarket?

(07-01-2011 11:38 PM)ben2go Wrote: [ -> ]That's sweet mani.Are they available to buy?What vehicle(s) did they come on?Aftermarket?

I don't know much about these, just from Merlot's post.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=2729


I did however see on the STT's website they sell a 300D/300GD turbo system that one can get more info on.

http://www.sttemtec.com/1/1.0.1.0/51/2/



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Thanks DV.

OM603 non egr manifold: