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hi everybody!!
i am from Rhodes/Greece and have a Gwagen.
my problem is engine trouble(what else) my car has the om602de29la engine "2.9td" i was wondering if it is possible to use the IP of the normaly aspirated(non turbo) 2.9 engine (upgrated offcourse) to gain some more power and which turbo should i use to upgrate the OEM turbo?

thank you guys!!Big Grin
02-03-2010 02:38 AM
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RE: too much headache
Yes and no. Your engine has a rotary pump while older engines have an inline pump.

Take a look at this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3CFRhp0HI0
02-03-2010 03:11 AM
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RE: too much headache
my basic problem is that the immobilizer kicks in every now and then and leaves me strandedAngry
my main goal is to get rid of all electronics,i also have a om602 N/A running engine would it be preferable to turbocharge this engine?
02-03-2010 03:22 AM
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RE: too much headache
try to find a 602a turbo inline IP out of the 2.5 Turbodiesel i.e. W201. I think (not sure) that this IP will fit your engine then your have no electronics and the possibilities for further upgrades.

Tom
02-03-2010 04:03 PM
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RE: too much headache
Take ECU from Sprinter with Bosch Nr 0281001496 or 0281001497.
Its without IMMO.

Its hard to put inline pump to this engine, you need to cut out place for bigger pump sprocket with injection timing regulation. That means that you must disasamble all engine. I make this, but better option is original VE pump.

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02-03-2010 04:31 PM
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RE: too much headache
thank u all for the help guys i'll keep u updated on how i proceed on it
02-05-2010 11:39 AM
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RE: too much headache
Rodos, huh? Beautiful island!

Anyway, welcome to the forum!

'83 300D **4 speed ** stainless flex oil cooler and brake lines ** powder coated valve cover, oil tower, and injection lines ** manual climate control ** better stereo ** homemade intake and monstercraftsman oil separator ** EGR Delete ** Euros headlights ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front springs ** Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late model 126 brake spindles, rotors and calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator ** 1/0 starter and charging cables ** late W126 front seats and rear seat back ** 300GD Clutch and Flywheel **

In progress: ported head, VGT ,W115 intake and exhaust fueled by MW pump with Tomnik's 6.5mm elements ** projector HID retrofit into euro style H/L housings

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02-08-2010 11:29 AM
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(02-08-2010 11:29 AM)SurfRodder Wrote:  Rodos, huh? Beautiful island!

Anyway, welcome to the forum!

yes only prob is that it gets too hot some times
02-09-2010 10:12 AM
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(02-09-2010 10:12 AM)offroadbakos Wrote:  yes only prob is that it gets too hot some times

yeah, the Mediterranean breezes aren't as cool as those of the Pacific, but aside from that the climate and biome are very similar to S. California

'83 300D **4 speed ** stainless flex oil cooler and brake lines ** powder coated valve cover, oil tower, and injection lines ** manual climate control ** better stereo ** homemade intake and monstercraftsman oil separator ** EGR Delete ** Euros headlights ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front springs ** Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late model 126 brake spindles, rotors and calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator ** 1/0 starter and charging cables ** late W126 front seats and rear seat back ** 300GD Clutch and Flywheel **

In progress: ported head, VGT ,W115 intake and exhaust fueled by MW pump with Tomnik's 6.5mm elements ** projector HID retrofit into euro style H/L housings

OBK# 62
02-11-2010 09:54 PM
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RE: too much headache
ok i have used the om602 with 95hp i mounted the inlet & exhaust manifold of the om602dela as well as the turbo and intercooler and filter.would it be sufficient to peak the in line IP or do i have to do more than that?
i also would like to know what the average indication schould be on the pyrometer.
any info wellcome!!
02-24-2010 01:48 PM
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RE: too much headache
1 more question ..
schould i also swap the rods,pistons etc from the om602de29la to the om602d29 or can i leave it as it is since i am not looking for a lot of hp 130-140hp max?
02-25-2010 02:13 AM
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RE: too much headache
after a few e-mails back & forth with Antii at myna i decided to go for the N/A 602 pump tuning costs for inline m pump 850-1050 euro while converting & tuning the rotary electronic pump to mechanikal can be way over 2000 euro.
According to the Finns the OM602D29 is one of the best N/A engines for turbo use for powers up to 180hp for more than that modifications are more than required if u want to be at piece of mind.
i will proceed with this as soon as possible sending my in line IP to myna and trying to source a new turbo GT2359V or GT2560R.
i'll try to keep u up to date
03-15-2010 01:50 AM
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RE: too much headache
Hi offroadbakos,

Any progress on this yet and are you satisfied?
10-06-2010 06:32 AM
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RE: too much headache
(10-06-2010 06:32 AM)Jambo Wrote:  Hi offroadbakos,

Any progress on this yet and are you satisfied?

Big Grin i drowned my engine ......so i bought a new one om605 turbo fitted a mechanikal IP from a om602 so as soon as finish with the fitting and fine tuning of this engine (work next season for the myna pump, hx30 or hx35 & manifold) cause i did not have much free time after workSad
i keep you posted
10-07-2010 01:48 PM
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