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kamel
Naturally-aspirated SUCKS

176
04-06-2009, 01:52 AM #1
Anyone have any on hand or have an inexpensive source?

'78 300D, OM617.912: 4spd manual, TB03 at 10PSI, 26*BTDC, DV's turned, HVAC, emissions system removed, e-fan, short ram, 3" downpipe to straight exhaust, W126 Bendix brakes, MR2 Spyder seats. 2890lbs
kamel
04-06-2009, 01:52 AM #1

Anyone have any on hand or have an inexpensive source?


'78 300D, OM617.912: 4spd manual, TB03 at 10PSI, 26*BTDC, DV's turned, HVAC, emissions system removed, e-fan, short ram, 3" downpipe to straight exhaust, W126 Bendix brakes, MR2 Spyder seats. 2890lbs

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
04-07-2009, 09:43 PM #2
(04-06-2009, 01:52 AM)kamel Anyone have any on hand or have an inexpensive source?

Cummins will get you 10mm

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
04-07-2009, 09:43 PM #2

(04-06-2009, 01:52 AM)kamel Anyone have any on hand or have an inexpensive source?

Cummins will get you 10mm


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Lincolnlock
TA 0301

69
06-02-2009, 09:23 PM #3
(04-07-2009, 09:43 PM)winmutt
(04-06-2009, 01:52 AM)kamel Anyone have any on hand or have an inexpensive source?

Cummins will get you 10mm

What is the part# for these? I'm interested.
Lincolnlock
06-02-2009, 09:23 PM #3

(04-07-2009, 09:43 PM)winmutt
(04-06-2009, 01:52 AM)kamel Anyone have any on hand or have an inexpensive source?

Cummins will get you 10mm

What is the part# for these? I'm interested.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
06-03-2009, 12:25 PM #4
The problem is the stroke. Both 8mm and 10mm valves have a different stroke. I wouldn't buy them new until one of us finds out what a used set it like.

Honestly, the amount of money it takes to rebuild an MW pump is not much different from a Myna.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
06-03-2009, 12:25 PM #4

The problem is the stroke. Both 8mm and 10mm valves have a different stroke. I wouldn't buy them new until one of us finds out what a used set it like.

Honestly, the amount of money it takes to rebuild an MW pump is not much different from a Myna.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Lincolnlock
TA 0301

69
06-03-2009, 01:20 PM #5
(06-03-2009, 12:25 PM)winmutt The problem is the stroke. Both 8mm and 10mm valves have a different stroke. I wouldn't buy them new until one of us finds out what a used set it like.

Honestly, the amount of money it takes to rebuild an MW pump is not much different from a Myna.

What engine did they use this pump on so I can try and source some used ones? I have a bunch of hookups for heavy engine manufactures.
Lincolnlock
06-03-2009, 01:20 PM #5

(06-03-2009, 12:25 PM)winmutt The problem is the stroke. Both 8mm and 10mm valves have a different stroke. I wouldn't buy them new until one of us finds out what a used set it like.

Honestly, the amount of money it takes to rebuild an MW pump is not much different from a Myna.

What engine did they use this pump on so I can try and source some used ones? I have a bunch of hookups for heavy engine manufactures.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
06-04-2009, 06:28 AM #6
(06-03-2009, 01:20 PM)Lincolnlock
(06-03-2009, 12:25 PM)winmutt The problem is the stroke. Both 8mm and 10mm valves have a different stroke. I wouldn't buy them new until one of us finds out what a used set it like.

Honestly, the amount of money it takes to rebuild an MW pump is not much different from a Myna.

What engine did they use this pump on so I can try and source some used ones? I have a bunch of hookups for heavy engine manufactures.

10mm is off the cummins with the MW pump. Real early dodges IIRC.

8mm came out of Iveco trucks. Again MW pump.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/8mm-...t-191.html

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
06-04-2009, 06:28 AM #6

(06-03-2009, 01:20 PM)Lincolnlock
(06-03-2009, 12:25 PM)winmutt The problem is the stroke. Both 8mm and 10mm valves have a different stroke. I wouldn't buy them new until one of us finds out what a used set it like.

Honestly, the amount of money it takes to rebuild an MW pump is not much different from a Myna.

What engine did they use this pump on so I can try and source some used ones? I have a bunch of hookups for heavy engine manufactures.

10mm is off the cummins with the MW pump. Real early dodges IIRC.

8mm came out of Iveco trucks. Again MW pump.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/8mm-...t-191.html


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

tantank79
T3-45

109
06-04-2009, 10:57 PM #7
The 10mm elements are available from the DT466. However, I believe only some of the early versions of this engine had the MW. I actually found a set of 6 elements in a pump, still on the truck, but did not purchase them due to the uncertainty surrounding their application.

-Brian

1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
tantank79
06-04-2009, 10:57 PM #7

The 10mm elements are available from the DT466. However, I believe only some of the early versions of this engine had the MW. I actually found a set of 6 elements in a pump, still on the truck, but did not purchase them due to the uncertainty surrounding their application.


-Brian

1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE

shredator
ridiculous snail orgy of power

56
08-23-2009, 02:06 AM #8
fyi-
I just received some 10mm volvo elements that I ordered from Chinahanji. They were $12.50 each iirc. Shipping was pretty steep at $56 though. They only allow payment through wire transfer, and the entire transaction took about a month, but they are legit. I'm going to try to find a place to install them in a spare pump of mine next friday.
shredator
08-23-2009, 02:06 AM #8

fyi-
I just received some 10mm volvo elements that I ordered from Chinahanji. They were $12.50 each iirc. Shipping was pretty steep at $56 though. They only allow payment through wire transfer, and the entire transaction took about a month, but they are legit. I'm going to try to find a place to install them in a spare pump of mine next friday.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
08-23-2009, 03:33 AM #9
Are they the same stroke and helix?
ForcedInduction
08-23-2009, 03:33 AM #9

Are they the same stroke and helix?

shredator
ridiculous snail orgy of power

56
08-23-2009, 01:47 PM #10
(08-23-2009, 03:33 AM)ForcedInduction Are they the same stroke and helix?

dont know for sure, as I cant remove my existing plungers to compare without the special Bosch tools. Im guessing that they are probably not exactly what I need, but I am hoping that they are close enough to work. I was able to determine that the hole in the outside of the element where the fuel flows into the area above the plunger is at the same height as my existing ones, so that gave me hope that they are the same stroke. I'll find out for sure soon!

fyi- The plungers I ordered are for a pes6mw100/320rs5
shredator
08-23-2009, 01:47 PM #10

(08-23-2009, 03:33 AM)ForcedInduction Are they the same stroke and helix?

dont know for sure, as I cant remove my existing plungers to compare without the special Bosch tools. Im guessing that they are probably not exactly what I need, but I am hoping that they are close enough to work. I was able to determine that the hole in the outside of the element where the fuel flows into the area above the plunger is at the same height as my existing ones, so that gave me hope that they are the same stroke. I'll find out for sure soon!

fyi- The plungers I ordered are for a pes6mw100/320rs5

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-24-2009, 11:21 AM #11
Did you ask about the 8mm ones? It is my understanding that the strok on the 10mm was 2mm greater or smaller can't remember. Look forward to hearing the results. You will want to up your pop pressure and start with the DV turned all the way down. I would also have the ALDA on and screwed in all the way.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-24-2009, 11:21 AM #11

Did you ask about the 8mm ones? It is my understanding that the strok on the 10mm was 2mm greater or smaller can't remember. Look forward to hearing the results. You will want to up your pop pressure and start with the DV turned all the way down. I would also have the ALDA on and screwed in all the way.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

GREASY_BEAST
Holset

411
08-24-2009, 06:27 PM #12
Can't wait to hear about this one! I have a pump with bad elements that would be perfect for this...
GREASY_BEAST
08-24-2009, 06:27 PM #12

Can't wait to hear about this one! I have a pump with bad elements that would be perfect for this...

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-25-2009, 10:17 AM #13
Was that $59 per for shipping or total? Total would be fairly decent.

They show an 8mm element for the MW!!! http://www.chinahanji.com/13_Plunger_mw.htm

However there is a MW and MW thin, the MW thin is what the MB uses, and they only show 10mm elements. You can see pictures of the two however.


To bad they don't have any options on the M pump.
This post was last modified: 08-25-2009, 12:47 PM by winmutt.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-25-2009, 10:17 AM #13

Was that $59 per for shipping or total? Total would be fairly decent.

They show an 8mm element for the MW!!! http://www.chinahanji.com/13_Plunger_mw.htm

However there is a MW and MW thin, the MW thin is what the MB uses, and they only show 10mm elements. You can see pictures of the two however.


To bad they don't have any options on the M pump.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

shredator
ridiculous snail orgy of power

56
08-25-2009, 01:08 PM #14
it was $56 for shipping for everything. I ordered 6 elements @$12.50ea and 6 delivery valves @$2.00ea (i felt like getting an extra to play with) the total price for all this delivered was ~$144.

I saw the 8mm ones, but like winmutt said, they are not the "thin" variety, not sure if there is any difference other than the flange thickness.

Also, I thought I remembered reading somewhere that pumps with "RS1xxx" as the last digits of the pump model# indicated the longer stroke. Thats why I chose these volvo elements. besides the 5.5mm mercedes elements, They were the only other elements offered by chinahanji for a pump with a part # that did not end in "RS1xxx". Maybe someone with some real knowledge of bosch pumps could confirm or deny my half-ass reasoning?Blush
shredator
08-25-2009, 01:08 PM #14

it was $56 for shipping for everything. I ordered 6 elements @$12.50ea and 6 delivery valves @$2.00ea (i felt like getting an extra to play with) the total price for all this delivered was ~$144.

I saw the 8mm ones, but like winmutt said, they are not the "thin" variety, not sure if there is any difference other than the flange thickness.

Also, I thought I remembered reading somewhere that pumps with "RS1xxx" as the last digits of the pump model# indicated the longer stroke. Thats why I chose these volvo elements. besides the 5.5mm mercedes elements, They were the only other elements offered by chinahanji for a pump with a part # that did not end in "RS1xxx". Maybe someone with some real knowledge of bosch pumps could confirm or deny my half-ass reasoning?Blush

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-26-2009, 10:45 AM #15
I contacted them via email and they do not carry the 7mm elements for the M pump. What a shame. If this is a workable solution for you then I am going to try the 9mm for the MW pump if they have them.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-26-2009, 10:45 AM #15

I contacted them via email and they do not carry the 7mm elements for the M pump. What a shame. If this is a workable solution for you then I am going to try the 9mm for the MW pump if they have them.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

 
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